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Experts Warn Low Gas Prices Aren't Here To Stay

Friday, October 24, 2008 – updated: 6:42 pm EDT October 24, 2008
While drivers in the Valley took advantage Friday of the lowest gas prices they've seen in months, experts said the savings might not last much longer.

Starting next month, the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries, or OPEC, plans to cut production by 1.5 million barrels of oil per day.

OPEC, which controls 40 percent of the global oil supply, said the move is to shore up sagging prices.

Washington immediately criticized the cuts, as did many Ohio Valley drivers.
DAEWOO JOIN ETHOS IN THE RACE TO DRIVE THE FIRST HHO WATER POWERED CAR IN EUROPE

11/28/2008
When ETHOS CEO Peter Aldred first announced his latest goal earlier this year; "To produce and drive the first water-powered car in Europe" the skeptics thought he had gone crazy. But it is now looking like they might have to eat their words as here are the designs for the new ETHOS HHO Extraction Unit which have been produced in association with DAEWOO Cars.

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DAEWOO JOIN ETHOS IN THE RACE TO DRIVE THE FIRST HHO WATER POWERED CAR IN EUROPE

11/28/2008
When ETHOS CEO Peter Aldred first announced his latest goal earlier this year; "To produce and drive the first water-powered car in Europe" the skeptics thought he had gone crazy. But it is now looking like they might have to eat their words as here are the designs for the new ETHOS HHO Extraction Unit which have been produced in association with DAEWOO Cars.

The first prototype is scheduled to be finished by the end of 2008 and, following the successful trials that they envisage, will then move forward into full scale mass-production in the first quarter of 2009. This new method of disassociating the covalent bonds of the hydrogen and oxygen water molecules is the brain child of a 22 year old genius, whose identity is being withheld for his own personal safety as there is mass opposition to free energy technologies that have been suppressed over many decades and previous inventors threatened and killed.

Even Peter Aldred himself has been facing far more than his usual fair share of challenges since embarking on this new free energy mission in March of this year; culminating on the 21st November 2008 when he was deported and banned from his home in Turkey where he lived and worked on running his ETHOS business.

We managed to get to speak with Peter, who is now laying low in Eastern Europe while the prototype is completed; "Free energy has been with us for many years, it is just that we have never before been allowed to use it. If you look back at our previous press releases you will see that at the start of this new mission I visited Daniel Dingle in the Philippines and drove the water powered car he first invented in 1968! So, 30 years ago we all could have had cars that ran on water - so why now, 30 years later, do we still not yet have them? The technology was there then and, with the advent of new technologies, even more efficient ways of disassociating water molecules have now been discovered. I will drive the first car in Europe powered by nothing else but water..."

Peter also went on to tell us that, following the success of their new PD Ease for Parkinson's Disease sufferers (www.pdease.com), they also have a project which is very close to a cure for Alzheimer's Disease and are just about to start clinical trials to prove its efficacy as well.

We then spoke to Daniel Smith, the ETHOS GCO who is in charge of coordinating this project; "My involvement in the project has certainly made an impact, being able to concentrate on all the minutia which has resulted in all the excitement and buzz of seeing the fruition of all these months of dedicated focus, finally resulting in what you are seeing today. It has been a real concerted team effort on all fronts and, even though we have seen some devastating lows in the project, it is the highs like today which have always been the goal to reach, which is to provide alternative free energy. Nothing brings me greater pleasure, or makes me more proud than I am today; to bring you the very exciting news on such a device as the ethos:energies HydroGenX Unit."
Yucaipa Manufacturer Touts New Uses for Signature Product.

11/28/2008
Yucaipa flow meter manufacturer Ingen Technologies Inc. announced Monday that according to a recent NewsUSA article, Ingen's Oxyview flow meter, developed to help lung patients, is now ready to help car engines.

"The use of flow meters in automotive engines that use Electronic Fuel Injection Enhancers is increasing. EFIE will unleash the full potential of the fuel saver and can save 5-10 percent on fuel costs simply by `leaning' the fuel mixture," Chairman and CEO Scott Sands said in a news release.

The Oxyview flow meter has been tested by FuelSaver-MPG Inc. and works well as a complement to its EFIE and HHO boosters, according to the release.
Alternative fuel advocates say cheap gas won't last

ARLINGTON -- James Ferguson works a bit like a mad scientist in his southeast Arlington garage. Using metal plates, Mason jars and other gadgetry, he creates electrolyzers, which he believes can improve gas mileage when installed under the hood of most cars.
But there’s no doubt, Ferguson says, that demand for electrolyzers — experimental add-ons available only online — has dropped dramatically since gas prices fell below $2 a gallon.
"When gas was $4 a gallon, I was shipping out 20 a day, easy," said Ferguson, 40, who also runs a flooring company. "Now, I’ll get three orders, and then I won’t get anything for a couple of days."
Ferguson sells the electrolyzers for about $185 each. They work by separating hydrogen from oxygen in a jar of water and injecting the hydrogen into gasoline to make it burn more efficiently, at least in theory.
Now that gas is cheaper again, drivers who once flocked to Web sites like the one where Ferguson’s devices are sold — www.water4gas.com — aren’t quite as desperate to save fuel.
But some alternative commuting methods are still going strong. For example, interest in buses and trains has not waned.
"October was our all-time highest month," said Joan Hunter, spokeswoman for the Fort Worth Transportation Authority. "Vanpool is breaking records, too."
The T logged 828,406 total trips in October, including bus, train and vanpool passengers, she said.
October figures reflect T ridership when gas dipped below $3 a gallon. But figures for November, when the cost of regular unleaded fell below $2 a gallon, won’t be available for a few more weeks, she said.
However, anecdotal evidence shows that bus stops and train stations are still full, she said.
Dallas Area Rapid Transit also experienced record ridership in October — more than 11.4 million trips, spokesman Mark Ball said.
Ferguson believes that interest in so-called hydrogen-on-demand technology will pick back up in 2009. America’s interest in developing greener technology for cars is a permanent attitude shift, he said.
"We know the price of gas is going to go back up," he said. Of cheap gas, he said, "We know it ain’t going to last."


Hydrogen on demand

Hydrogen on demand involves splitting water into hydrogen and oxygen atoms. The resulting gas can be injected into gasoline to improve mileage, at least in theory, and a variety of devices that use the technique are sold online. Examples are at www.water4gas.com.
HHO enthusiasts, including scientists and amateur experimenters, often meet to compare results. One such event was held recently in Grand Prairie.
Third-party researchers have been unable to produce gas mileage savings with under-the-hood hydrogen devices sold commercially, according to results published by Popular Mechanics and other journals.

GORDON DICKSON, 817-685-3816

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Alternative fuel advocates say cheap gas won't last


ARLINGTON -- James Ferguson works a bit like a mad scientist in his southeast Arlington garage. Using metal plates, Mason jars and other gadgetry, he creates electrolyzers, which he believes can improve gas mileage when installed under the hood of most cars.
But there’s no doubt, Ferguson says, that demand for electrolyzers — experimental add-ons available only online — has dropped dramatically since gas prices fell below $2 a gallon.
"When gas was $4 a gallon, I was shipping out 20 a day, easy," said Ferguson, 40, who also runs a flooring company. "Now, I’ll get three orders, and then I won’t get anything for a couple of days."
Ferguson sells the electrolyzers for about $185 each. They work by separating hydrogen from oxygen in a jar of water and injecting the hydrogen into gasoline to make it burn more efficiently, at least in theory.
Now that gas is cheaper again, drivers who once flocked to Web sites like the one where Ferguson’s devices are sold — www.water4gas.com — aren’t quite as desperate to save fuel.
But some alternative commuting methods are still going strong. For example, interest in buses and trains has not waned.
"October was our all-time highest month," said Joan Hunter, spokeswoman for the Fort Worth Transportation Authority. "Vanpool is breaking records, too."
The T logged 828,406 total trips in October, including bus, train and vanpool passengers, she said.
October figures reflect T ridership when gas dipped below $3 a gallon. But figures for November, when the cost of regular unleaded fell below $2 a gallon, won’t be available for a few more weeks, she said.
However, anecdotal evidence shows that bus stops and train stations are still full, she said.
Dallas Area Rapid Transit also experienced record ridership in October — more than 11.4 million trips, spokesman Mark Ball said.
Ferguson believes that interest in so-called hydrogen-on-demand technology will pick back up in 2009. America’s interest in developing greener technology for cars is a permanent attitude shift, he said.
"We know the price of gas is going to go back up," he said. Of cheap gas, he said, "We know it ain’t going to last."

Hydrogen on demand
Hydrogen on demand involves splitting water into hydrogen and oxygen atoms. The resulting gas can be injected into gasoline to improve mileage, at least in theory, and a variety of devices that use the technique are sold online. Examples are at www.water4gas.com.

HHO enthusiasts, including scientists and amateur experimenters, often meet to compare results. One such event was held recently in Grand Prairie.

Third-party researchers have been unable to produce gas mileage savings with under-the-hood hydrogen devices sold commercially, according to results published by Popular Mechanics and other journals.

GORDON DICKSON, 817-685-3816

Honda Clarity Burns Hydrogen, Emits Only Water
Jason H. Harper

11/26/2008
Nov. 26 (Bloomberg) -- It’s not every day that you get to kick the wheels on the car of tomorrow. After all, the question of what will power future automobiles is a guessing game, with candidates ranging from electricity and compressed natural gas to hydrogen fuel cells.

Honda made an expensive bet in that guessing game by designing the hydrogen-powered FCX Clarity. It’s costly (perhaps $500,000 each to produce), yet the sedan emits only water.
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Honda Clarity Burns Hydrogen, Emits Only Water


Review by Jason H. Harper

Nov. 26 (Bloomberg) -- It’s not every day that you get to kick the wheels on the car of tomorrow. After all, the question of what will power future automobiles is a guessing game, with candidates ranging from electricity and compressed natural gas to hydrogen fuel cells.

Honda made an expensive bet in that guessing game by designing the hydrogen-powered FCX Clarity. It’s costly (perhaps $500,000 each to produce), yet the sedan emits only water.

Both Honda and Chevy are testing fuel-cell vehicles by making them available for lease by select customers. Hydrogen’s big upside is its cleanliness and ability to be produced from many sources, even water and human waste.

Fuel-cell stacks are akin to mini power stations in which the chemical energy of hydrogen and oxygen is converted into electricity, which then powers an electric motor. Since hydrogen is a gas, it’s stored under pressure in reinforced tanks.

There are big hurdles to clear because the technology is expensive and an entire hydrogen refueling infrastructure will need to be created. (Honda’s previous FCX, first delivered in 2002, cost about $1 million each to produce. Executives are coy but say the Clarity costs about half that.)

I pick up the Clarity in Manhattan with the intent of driving it dry, as I’m curious about the refueling process itself. Is it complicated?

I turn the key, push the start button and the center gauges soon turn blue, indicating it’s ready to drive. Like a hybrid or electric car, there’s no start-up noise.

I motor into traffic, trying not to ignore the fact that while the Clarity is as exotic and expensive as an Italian supercar, nobody else -- including errant yellow taxis -- knows this. Best to avoid fender benders.

Refueling Station

I’m on my way to Allentown, Pennsylvania, about 90 miles away. There I will find Air Products & Chemicals Inc. and its hydrogen refilling station. The Clarity has a range of 190 miles of highway driving, 280 of combined city/freeway. (Like hybrids, fuel-cell vehicles get better mileage in town, at slow speeds with less wind resistance.) A full tank is just enough for one back-and-forth trip.

In the Clarity’s case, hydrogen is delivered as pressurized gas, and one kilogram is roughly equivalent to one gallon of gas. Over 200 miles in the day, I average 55 miles per “gallon.” Yet the tank only holds about four kilograms of hydrogen, and if you run out, a flatbed truck is in your immediate future.

Only in California

The Clarity has its own production line, which over the next three years will put out some 200 cars. Only Southern California customers are currently getting them since the state has the most hydrogen stations. Customers are pre-vetted, and leases cost $600 a month for three years, including maintenance and insurance. (So far, only a few have been delivered.) Honda is obviously not making money on the project, but it does suggest a certain seriousness.

New York won’t see the Clarity soon. General Motors Corp., though, is offering its fuel-cell Chevy Equinox SUV at no cost to some 100 drivers in New York, Southern California and Washington, D.C. New York drivers can use a Shell station in White Plains.

The Clarity was expressly designed as a fuel-cell vehicle, and the result is an elegant and handsome four-door sedan. With no big engine in the front, the hood and overhang are quite short and offset by a raked windshield. The Clarity is basically one long swoop, with a high back trunk to minimize air drag. Futuristic, though not aggressively so.

Easy Handling

I’m surprised to find that it drives just about like any other Honda. It’s easy to negotiate in traffic, handles nicely and doesn’t feel especially sluggish. Nor did I have any problem keeping up with fast traffic on the highway.

It looks like a real car, too. The test version has a metallic burgundy paint job, attractive wheel rims and an interior that would make an Acura proud, with GPS navigation, cooled and heated seats and tons of room.

Electronic gauges monitor gas mileage, hydrogen levels and range, and how much power is recaptured while braking (a technology shared with hybrids). A small circle at the center expands and contracts depending on how much power is being used -- an intuitive way of gauging how efficiently you’re driving.

My range is dwindling as I near Allentown, and I’m glad to find Air Products, which has some 85 hydrogen stations in 15 countries. They’re expecting me, and representatives explain the simple refueling process.

I insert a narrow hose onto a nozzle inside the car’s gas latch and then turn a locking lever. It’s a “closed system,” so the hydrogen neither leaks nor releases fumes. The pump performs a check of the pressure inside the car’s hydrogen chamber, then begins fueling.

Minutes later, I’m back on the road to New York.

No doubt hydrogen technology has a long way to go to become practical, yet if the Clarity is any indication, the actual process of driving and refueling could be a painless one.

The Honda FCX Clarity at a Glance

Engine: Fuel-cell stack and electric drive motor, with 134 horsepower and 189 pound-feet of torque.

Transmission: One-speed direct drive.

Speed: 0 to 60 miles per hour in about 10 seconds.

Gas mileage per kilogram: 77 city; 67 highway.

Best features: Emits only water but drives like a gas-fueled car.

Worst feature: The fear of running out of hydrogen and being stranded.

Target buyer: The true environmental front runner (who also lives in Southern California).

(Jason H. Harper writes about autos for Bloomberg News. The opinions expressed are his own.)

To contact the writer of this column: Jason H. Harper at Jason@JasonHharper.com.
Last Updated: November 26, 2008 00:01 EST

HHo is for real , it’s been tested by the Federal Government and is documented in a report.

As reported in 2007 report by

Fmcsa Department of Transportation report . Theoretically any spark ignited gasoline engine can operate on gaseous fuels. Including hydrogen. Hho ICE(internal combustion engine) can operate with the air fuel ratio as high as 86:1. Gasoline engines run at 14.7:1 . That would mean a 25 percent improvement in efficiency. Source page 23 of report  http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/facts-research/research-technology/report/Guidelines-H2-Fuel-in-CMVs-Nov2007.pdf
1.2.3 Hydrogen Injection Systems A hydrogen injection system for a diesel engine produces small amounts of hydrogen and oxygen on demand by electrolyzing water carried onboard the vehicle. The electricity required is supplied by the engine’s alternator or 12/24-volt electrical system (see Section 1.5 for a description of electrolysis). The hydrogen and oxygen are injected into the engine’s air intake manifold, where they mix with the intake air. In theory, the combustion properties of the hydrogen result in more complete combustion of diesel fuel in the engine, reducing tailpipe emissions and improving fuel economy (CHEC, n.d.). Limited laboratory testing of a hydrogen injection system installed on an older diesel truck engine operated at a series of constant speeds showed a 4 percent reduction in fuel use and a 7 percent reduction in particulate emissions with the system on (ETVC, 2005).  A hydrogen injection system for a diesel engine produces and uses significantly less hydrogen than a hydrogen fuel cell or hydrogen ICE, and does not require that compressed or liquid hydrogen be carried on the vehicle. The system is designed to produce hydrogen only when required, in response to driver throttle commands. When the system is shut-off, no hydrogen is present on the vehicle.

Source page 24 http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/facts-research/research-technology/report/Guidelines-H2-Fuel-in-CMVs-Nov2007.pdf
HHo is for real , it’s been tested by the Federal Government and is documented in a report.

As reported in 2007 report by

Fmcsa Department of Transportation report . Theoretically any spark ignited gasoline engine can operate on gaseous fuels. Including hydrogen. Hho ICE(internal combustion engine) can operate with the air fuel ratio as high as 86:1. Gasoline engines run at 14.7:1 . That would mean a 25 percent improvement in efficiency. Source page 23 of report
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MIT Chemists Discover New Catalyst That Speeds Up The Splitting of Water
Into Hydrogen & Oxygen

In what some are calling a major breakthrough for renewable energy, MIT chemists Daniel Nocera and Matthew Kanan discover a new catalyst that speeds up the splitting of water into oxygen and hydrogen. The discovery may heighten interest in pollution-free fuel cell vehicles, which generate energy by combining hydrogen and oxygen chemically, emitting only water. The catalyst, made from cheap materials and working in ordinary water, may also make it easier to convert sunlight into chemical fuels, storing solar energy in much the way plants do.

From Chemical Explorers, Moreno/Lyons Productions
We've often heard the media and government officials talk up the potential for a future hydrogen economy to revolutionize the way we consume and produce energy. And while we've seen some promising applications of hydrogen as a fuel source in the last few months, it still seems very unlikely that we'll ever see a hydrogen-based energy market on the scale that some are envisioning. That's not to say that some scientists aren't still trying to gradually make this a reality: Craig Grimes, a professor of electrical engineering at Penn State University, has just announced that he and his team are close — in their words, "only a couple of problems away" — to developing a cheap, viable photoelectrolytic technology, that is one that would split water into hydrogen and oxygen by using sunlight.

While most current hydrogen production processes split hydrogen from natural gas — an inefficient technique that consumes energy and produces greenhouse gases — Grimes' method would rely on thin films made of titanium iron oxide nanotube arrays that could split water under natural light. According to Grimes, this method is much more eco-friendly since it only requires the natural energy of sunlight and doesn't produce GHGs.

The researchers already knew from previous trials that titanium oxide offered superior charge-transfer properties and corrosion stability, making it an ideal candidate for durable, inexpensive solar cells. Having used ultraviolet light to test earlier versions of their nanotubes — which only contains about 5% of the solar spectrum's energy — Grimes and his colleagues were keenly aware that they would need to find a way to harness a larger portion of the visible spectrum to make the nanotube arrays more efficient and viable.

Using a form of iron called hematite — a low band gap semiconductor material — they were able to capture a much larger portion of the solar spectrum in their arrays. In their recently published study, they reported a photoconversion rate of 1.5%, the second highest rate ever achieved using an iron oxide-related material.

They are now focusing on optimizing the nanotube architecture to obtain an efficiency closer to the theoretical maximum for materials with hematite (around 12.9%). Grimes is certainly hopeful about the prospects for his group's technology to transcend other production methods: "As I see it, we are a couple of problems away from having something that will revolutionize the field of hydrogen generation by use of solar energy."

Via ::Penn State Materials Research Institute: Revolution in Solar Hydrogen on the Horizon (press release)
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Inventor Rob Juliano stands in front of a customer’s engine that’s been outfitted with an electrolysis-based hydrogen gas pump he’s developed. The system uses power from the car battery to break down water into its gaseous components, which are then pumped into the engine with the goal of improving fuel efficiency.
Photos by Pete Erickson / The Bulletin
Fueled by H2O?
A local inventor says he has figured out how to boost a car’s fuel efficiency by using water; experts say laws of physics are against him
By Andrew Moore / The Bulletin
Published: December 26. 2008 4:00AM PST advertisement:

Can a car run on water?

Bend businessman Rob Juliano claims it can, despite ample skepticism from scientists and automotive experts.

Although the average price of fuel has slipped dramatically from a summer high of more than $4 per gallon, Juliano believes water — specifically the hydrogen contained in water — can be used to power an internal-combustion engine at a fraction of the cost of gasoline.

Hydrogen is being pursued as a fuel by car manufacturers. Honda earlier this year debuted its FCX Clarity, a hydrogen fuel cell vehicle powered by an electric motor. BMW has developed a car that can use either gasoline or hydrogen to power a traditional motor.

Juliano, however, is peddling something a bit different. Through his company — UnitedH2O.com — the 1984 graduate of Bend’s Mountain View High School builds and installs electrolytic hydrogen generators. They are small, footlong canisters that use electricity from a car battery to break water into its gaseous components, hydrogen and oxygen.

The gases are then funneled into the engine, where — due to the combustive nature of hydrogen — it is used to help drive an engine’s pistons. The process means less gasoline is injected into the piston cylinders, hence the car can travel farther on less gas, thereby increasing the car’s fuel efficiency. In other words, Juliano says cars with his system get more miles per gallon.

Lincoln City resident Linda Young, who paid roughly $1,100 to have Juliano install the system, says her gas mileage has increased nearly 65 percent. Her Nissan Maxima used to get roughly 17 miles per gallon, but the last time she checked, it was getting 28 miles per gallon, she said.

“It sounds better, there’s more power — this old dog of a car has been brought to life after he put the hydrogen thing on, and we’re thrilled,” Young said.

She added that she’s so happy with Juliano’s product she’s preparing to have it installed on her family truck.

The skeptics


Wait one second, say some scientists.

Hydrogen can be used as a fuel, but to create it onboard a vehicle with electricity from a battery, which is charged by an alternator, which is turned by an engine, which is powered by gas, constitutes a perpetual motion machine, says Robert Paasch, the Boeing professor of mechanical design at Oregon State University’s School of Mechanical, Industrial and Manufacturing Engineering.

According to the first law of thermodynamics, which states energy can neither be created nor destroyed, the car as a perpetual motion machine is an impossibility, Paasch said. It takes more energy to create hydrogen from water than you get in return when burning the hydrogen in the engine, he said.

“... The physics tell us this can’t work,” Paasch said. “People say scientists don’t know everything, but in this case, we do know. If someone could prove this worked, they would win a Nobel Prize, because this would throw out 300 years of Western science.”

Juliano doesn’t claim to have turned the natural world on its head. Instead, he points to customers such as Young who have seen incontrovertible improvements in gas mileage and asks how his hydrogen system could not be the answer.

“For skeptics, I bring them back to the basics,” Juliano said. “If I have to, I turn the (hydrogen) generator on and make it bubble, and light the hydrogen on fire and it goes ‘Bam,’ and it wakes them up, and I say, ‘That explodes, your car runs on (fuel) explosions, why wouldn’t it work?’”

Paasch attributes the gas mileage gains to a placebo effect, or a consumer who is more conscientious about his or her driving habits and see gains in efficiency as a result.

However, Willamette Valley resident Elden Huntling, who built his own electrolysis-based hydrogen system for his 1992 Dodge diesel pickup, also claims to have seen improvement in his truck’s gas mileage.

“I’ve heard people call this is a scam, but my Dodge, I’ve already reached the minimum mileage standard for trucks in 2020,” said Huntling.

According to the Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007, automobile and light-truck manufacturers must have a total fleet average fuel economy of at least 35 mpg by 2020, although there is a backstop standard of 27.5 mpg, which is the rate to which Huntling is referring.

Bend resident Drannan Hamby, a retired Linfield College professor with a doctorate in physical chemistry, said it’s doubtful the mileage increases are due to the energy potential of the hydrogen and oxygen added to the piston cylinder. But he does wonder if there might be some other unexplained efficiency gains at work.

Another skeptic is Mike Allen, a senior automotive editor for Popular Mechanics. In an online piece dated Aug. 7, 2008, that Allen wrote for the magazine, he said: “The entire concept of running your car on water is based on bad science.”

But, citing others who have installed the same systems and seen increases in mileage efficiency, Allen wondered if there is something else at play, such as altering the fuel injection system to make the engine run on a leaner fuel-to-air mixture to accommodate the hydrogen and oxygen.

“I’m convinced there’s a lot of placebo effect.” Allen wrote. “I also think that these (modifications) may be increasing fuel economy independently of the (hydrogen and oxygen) injection. So stay tuned, because we’re still testing.”

Unswayed


The jury may still be out, but Juliano stands by his system. It’s unpatented and builds off designs floating around the Internet, although Juliano said the hydrogen canisters are his own design. The canisters only accept distilled water and have to be refilled every two to three months.

The entire system costs roughly $2,000 to purchase and install, which Juliano does.

Juliano, a serial entrepreneur who founded a water-testing company as well as a direct-marketing firm that he said later went out of business due to the no-call list, has so far financed UnitedH2O.com by himself but said he’s beginning to look for investors.

He admits it can be a struggle sometimes to convince people about the technology, but he’s certain he’s on the right track.

“The more of us installing this, the less we can be affected by the oil companies and those who want to threaten us,” Juliano said. “This is something for all of us — and it’s just ridiculous we haven’t started using this years ago.”

Andrew Moore can be reached at 541-617-7820 or at amoore@bendbulletin.com.